Regarding Aaron / Mr. Ronson’s idea, i see 2 problems.

1. No ones will admit they’re poor.
2. We are not *THAT* rich. Minus 1 or 2 people possibly more lah…

1. College students have huge ego. Poor people have huge ego. One
time, we went to feed the poor people in KL. Wah, once they found out
we giving free food, they took out their HANDPHONE and call all their
“poor” friends. That, we don’t have a problem. But then, when we give
rice, vege, meat for them.. they selectively chose the meat and wasted
the vege and rice.

People are not appreciative. I think the most appreciative people are
the hardcore poor, not the “poor” people who can afford handphone,
computer and a Taylors education.

2. Even if the council is rich, I don’t think we want to fork out
cash. See how hard it is to get people to contribute to… say, a
trip, or t-shirt? We have it, but we rather spend it on Pool, and
TGIF.

I propose some solutions to the problems:

1. Instead of openly humiliating “poor Taylors students”, we make our
contributions more subtle. How about a simple free buffet for 20
people in main campus. First come first served. Council members wear
white / simple plain tshirt and jeans. Create a mood that, hey, we’re
just like you.

Another thing is lucky draw / slogan contest. Make random people fill
in form, just name, handphone no., programme, year and what they like
about taylors. give them stuff like what students need most – rm 10
handphone prepaid reloads, carrefour / KFC vouchers. If they use
postpaid, then they don’t need these

2. Donations to charity must be from the heart. No point forcing all
council members to contribute rm 24/year, no matter how “just” the
cause is. I think we should give freely, and not be pressured. If
you’re convicted to give RM 100, then go ahead. Make it anonymous, and
we’ll set up some fund for the Council.

Yes, I agree there are Taylor’s students who need help. We just gotta
device a method / plan that is subtle, yet non-intrusive and
non-degrading lah. Slogan writing contest is the way to go.
Furthermore, we get their particulars

Regards,
Pippo

well, that’s up to those who we have the intention to help then to appreciate and cherish the contribution and our intentions to help. if they accept it then good for them and it makes both parties (us and them) happy. but if they want to be selective, its their loss. they dont reap the greatest benefit from our contributions but at least we have done our part and set our ethics, goals and objectives right.

why would you think we should give out prepaid cards and stuff like that to random people in college. think of it this way, yes probably people wont admit they’re poor but why are they able to study in taylors? answer: because they know they are not fortunate enough to be FAMA sponsored like most of us (Father and Mother Association xD ) thus they work extra hard and go the extra mile to get scholarships and thats why they are here. if they can buy a phone, im sure they can support their usage cost. so why bother giving out like that. in that case, keep the money for our own better use!

why is it that we would spend our money and pool and foos or food rather than a trip, etc? how much does it cost to get those simple entertainment and pleasure opposed to going on a trip? think about it..its the money matter. well, whether or not we want to fork out is a different matter. but the main point here is that what is the basis and reason we would want to contribute? we do not need to fork out anything because the student council has got its own funds to support itself; its only the matter of how we use it..

here’s another point you should look at. no one is forcing anyone to give rm24 a year! its just a suggestion and a way if you want to look at things at a simpler way. no one’s gonna stab you or murder you if you dont want to give. its totally your choice. and mind me, im not convicted to give! i chose to give because i believe that there is better worth of that amount of money. and i dont mind if you want to call me big headed or whatsoever, im giving already 100 permonth not per year yeah?! if you think that your money is so precious to you and its not worth what you’re doing, its fine coz again this is for CHARITY purpose…not FORCE-rity..and to the others who are reading this and thinks the same way as me or vice versa, this is just a personal opinion. you might or might not agree with me but heck the world’s unfair so just live with it. you don’t always get things your way..

GOOD NIGHT =)

Hi All,

It is always good to know that you guys are passionate about charitable work e.g. blessing a poorer community.

Please brainstorm for a project. It may not be necessary super mega huge but a simple one. It’s good that many of you have a lot of ideas. However, please choose one that is intentional, feasible and you guys have the capacity to do it.

I would like to caution all that communication among each other is very important and please do not make any assumption. Having contradicting ideas and opinions are normal and I hope that no matter how small an idea is, please treat it with respect. It is through the little little ideas we have that we can do great things.

Regards,

Ronson

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 hey hey philip,
dont get all sarcastic okay.
i didnt see anything wrong with the way aaron wrote his mail.
i dont feel the HOSTILITY which you were talking about.
i think you’re abit sensitive. :/
it’s like, whenever ppl disagree with you, you tend to get pushy and all uptight about it.
you dont have to act this way.
we’re all in the council together.
aaron was just merely suggesting.
what he said was true, if those ppl want to prioritise their dignity over accepting the fact that they are in need of help, then, it’s just too bad for them.
we’re not going to force them either.
and for your information, the way he talks/dresses/acts does not prove how ‘charitable’ he is.
perhaps, learn the fact that you cannot judge the book by it’s cover.
you said there are more gentle and better ways of conveying the mail, would you say you were doing the same as your advise?
in my opinion, just chill out, and discuss about it.
do remember that this isnt a formal mail ya.
you dont need those ‘yours truly’ and stuff.
that explains the terms we’re using which seems offensive to you.
it’s just some online discussion among friends, okay.
chilling philip.
chilling.
 
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tell you what, how about val, aaron .. we go for teh tarik on me =) talk in person, then everything will be cleared. correct? then we all can continue productively in peace and harmony. the internet fucks up our communication.

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the end.

damn, i’m getting too overanalytical now. hope they accept my teh-tarik request =)